I'm being serious when I say

I hope you're not getting mad. Clemson is my favorite topic of discussion these days. They are the trending team in the off season with Sammy potkins and that genius mike Bellamy. I bet both are smoking a blunt and laughing at you right now LOL.

Bad part about Bellamy flunking out is we dont get to see him and chad Kelly in the same back field together. The news those two would have made would have been epic. Instead of thunder and lightning it would have been crack and pot after each's drug of choice. That's right bro, Kelly was kicked out of the first HS for coke possession.

In before you say billybob LOL

Yep all you have is memories

Couldn't have said it better myself. Unfortunately for you it's a bunch of bad memories these days lol. Have to go back 30 years to find the good ones

They do bro...

They are going to have 11 teams in the Big 12' makes sense really.

You have the biggest beating in the history of the SEC championship which made you guys world beaters, lol. When Bama wins the SEC and national championship thats a conference title and national championship for scar. Because we beat them one time and even made it to the championship game one time. We even had a winning record against Clemson, one time, lol. For a guy dogging Clemson, you sure do hold that in high regard, beating them. We even beat uga, but not really because they won the division, not us. Now UGA has improved and so has Clemson, all we have is memories.

And you have

the worst bowl loss in history in your first and only bcs bowl game. The only thing that's worse than not playing in a bcs bowl game is getting the brakes beat off of you by a big east school. It made Clemson a joke. A laughing stock. By the way, WVU just scored again lol.

Rumblings going around that the big 12 only wants FSU. Get ready to be left behind. Crappy football school in a basketball conference. It's gonna be great!

You sound like 43 tigers...

Its over because we finally have lost to our rivals more than once. What are you even talking about? That is absolutely the silliest thing you have ever said. Clemson has some things you will never have and I know it hurts. A conference championship for one, the opportunity to play in a bcs bowl and a winning record over your rival. You had the best team you are ever going to have with most teams down in your division and you finished 5th in the SEC at best. You are a Conference USA program playing an sec schedule. But yeah, it's over for Clemson. When the smoke clears with everything and I am not just talking about the rivalry, you may not be so special anymore, it's a club defender rumor right now but we will see. Clemson can offer a great education, high graduation rates, a beautiful campus etc... To parents. You have Columbia, 5 points, Ron Morris and the columbia police to offer. So we will see in the end who finishes ahead.

Lot of smack talk

For a fan of a team that has been completely dominated by their rival for three years in a row, soon to be 4. The Clemson glory days are over. We now see what you will do when you win the acc. The same thing every team in the acc does, get drug in the orange bowl. Clemson just did it in glorious fashion. 70-33 fashion lol. And you say everyone is laughing at us Bwaaaa ha ha ha!

Not mad at all bro...

Laughing my ass off at you, everyone is. Especially when you all start calling Connor Shaw a world beater. I never said Boydd would go up and down the field on Oklahoma, that was all you. What kind championship have you won in football. None, but you beat Clemson so you think you are world beaters now. Got it, but you are not, lol. Maybe we can get another post from you this year that every sentence starts out with "I was wrong" or ends "but I was wrong" remember that? What happened bro? You will be running in your house hiding from Evelyn and James again soon enough, lol.

Bwaaaa ha ha ha

Dang you got mad. My bad lol. All I did was state facts, dont get mad bro.

Tahj boyd couldn't hold Connor Shaw's jock strap. Our defense had him crying after the game where he threw for a whopping 83 yds and had as many picks as he did tds. Shaw however was laughing after he threw 3 tds on Clemson ha. And guess what, he going to drag you again this year. Just like Garcia did 2 times before him. Garcia may have been a law breaker but at least he could beat Clemson. Sammy Watkins is a law breaker and can't beat Carolina. Btw, I heard the reason he played so poorly was because he was smoking blunts with Bellamy before the game and at halftime lol. Clemson is the laughing stock now bro, not Carolina. I can say that honestly, you can't.

BTW, Spurrier isn't going to let up this season on Clemson's sorry asses like he did the past 3 years. Dabo may as well go ahead and bite the pillow and prepare for a worse embarrassment than the orange bowl. Tweet that!

Man I really got you riled up lol. Mission accomplished. Did I help you any? May be helping too much with the Boyd bashing. You get pretty wound up when I joke about him. It's like throwing rocks at a monkey through a cage lol

Hopefully you are not mad...

Just trying to make it interesting again, have not really cared in a while. Maybe this will work? Lol

Boy, mention Connor Shaw...

And you really get spun up. You gonna get the box stacked and then what? I don't think he can pass the ball more than 15 yards. Gonna get ugly quick on offense and defense? Who knows good players untested coach and your whole season will depend on your defense. First Mitchell, then Smelley, then Garcia now the least talented of all shaw is going to be the next Joe Montana. Guess what bro, they all sucked and shaw will be no different.

You do know he is not Ellis Johnson right? You do know 90 percent of your success and improvement on the field was Ellis Johnson right? Sure was not offense.

If you could truly beat your rival into nonexistence where would you be? You have remember your goal is not to be Bama, Lsu or even Clemson, it's actually not to be a laughing stock. But keep going, it's to be allot fun for allot of people in the end, lol.

I think Dabo got the message, when all the cute stuff went around after the game. You can bet he circled the game this year and so far every team he has circled on the schedule went down. FSU, Va Tech and guess what? Auburn, a team you just went 0-3 against. You just have really not been a priority until now, winning the conference was. Clemson needed to get over that hump. But here you are thinking it's a big deal to beat you? We beat the hell out of you for a 100 years, but it's no big deal, everyone else did too, lol.

You do know that you

dont bring oklahoma's whole program with Powell right? You just got the DC, not the whole program. You do understand that don't you? Kind of like when you got Steele and I said you don't get bama's whole program with him? You didn't understand then and I'm sure you won't now and that's ok. Maybe you are not retarded and realise that there is a huge chance Powell will be worse than Steele. Clemson fans are right where they need to be. Kidding themselves about the future of their program in the sorry acc. They should be more worried about 3 in a row and soon to be 4 in a row.

You know what's great? If we get to 5 in a row all bets are off and Clemson is done. Carolina may as well replace them with a div 2 team on the schedule.

May as well start liking basketball bro. That's the only thing you will be able to hang you hat on if you stay in the acc. Which is good, because you don't even have that right now..

Connor Shaw only gives Spurrier nightmares...

Did you watch your spring game? But saying stoops doesn't know better than most how to stop Spurrier is silly. Also bragging on your offensive performance last year is silly. You thank Ellis Johnson for last year, if it were as you say maybe you could have beat out Georgia or maybe beat Auburn? I believe Oklahoma was better than Auburn on both sides of the ball. The biggest thing you can hang your hat on is beating Clemson, a big deal for you to even have a winning record in a 5 year span over Clemson. Would not be a big deal for Clemson, but I know it's great for you guys as scar fans. Does not mean you would beat Oklahoma tho, or even auburn for that matter, lol.

Pin our offense against Oklahoma's defense last season?

Oh hell yea I would. Oklahomas D pretty much sucked last season even with far greater talent than either of our teams. They would have nightmares about shaw running for 30 yd gains lol.

As far as batson goes, no one has bashed him as much as you. Surprising you try to take up for him in the off season lol.

By the way bro, all the bashing is for you. You wanted argument when I tried to avoid it. Just tell me when to let up. Say uncle lol. Hard to say much after 3 in a row and likely 4 or 5 or 10 lol. It's all in fun bro, not trying to make you mad.

So you are extremely...

Confident you would have beat Oklahoma last year. I am sure not, I don't think it would be a good match up for you at all. Along the same lines as Arkansas. Oklahoma was up and down last year. 9 wins was an awful year for them. 9 wins was an awful year, Venables was there a very long time and would still be there if he wanted to.

I think most would...

Agree it's time for a change there. But the coaches and players want him there, we are finally getting a training table which will go a long ways. I would make a change simply because he has been there so long. One thing for sure Batson will have a job in about 5 minutes if he goes. Also, something you know nothing about. Batson has been there since Ford, that's why he is still around.

I would too except for last season

We'll see what Powell can do at Clemson. I got a feeling he will step back at some point and say "damn, I'm not in Oklahoma anymore" lol. Sort of like Steele did after leaving Bama..

I don't have any high hopes...

For Powell, I don't even know who he is in fact. I watched Venables shut down the likes of mike leach etc... He didn't get fired at Oklahoma, stoops brought in his brother, who happens to be very good. It's a no brainer really on how it happened. But of course you can go with the club defender theory. I will take Oklahoma's teams while Venables was there all day over ours.

Also bringing up our strength coach isn't very smart

Because you'll always have Joey batson as long as dabo is there lol

When did I say anything about Carolina being great next season?

You're the one already talking about how great Powell will be and he hasn't even coached a game at Clemson yet and had a pretty bad season at Oklahoma last season. At least Ward had a lights out game against Nebraska as DC at Carolina last season. I even said it may or may not work with Ward's aggressiveness. We'll just have to wait and see. What we do know we have is talent on defense. Clemson isn't really sure if they do or not right now on defense. You lost some key players as well and no one really stands out that you return? Carolina on the other hand has Taylor, Cliwney, and Swearinger returning off the top of my head. All 3 are players that Clemson would easily trade 2 defensive players for just one of those 3.

You obviously have high hopes for Powell and Clemson. Don't set yourself up for a letdown again bro..

Right now it's not even comprehensible...

Much less credible. I saw no violation in what you wrote or anything else.

Yeah, I certainly brought up the Auburn beat down and that your defense was pretty good last year. You said if you get beat down in a game you can only hope to be above average. Would you consider you defense in a category higher than above average last year? So if Scar did it last year what gives? Also at one point last year you called Clemson a great team with a chance to win the national championship. They dropped off at the end, it happens, does not make them what you think they will be tho.

Also, when you lose Jeffrey, Ingram, gilmore, Ellis Johnson, your strength coach (most valuable possibly) replace them with assistants does not shout any sure bets on Scar being what you think they will be either.

Also tell me which is worse

The worst beating in the history of the sec champ game which has only been going for 21 years with 1 game a year. Or the worst beating in ENTIRE bowl history (BCS or otherwise) which has been going on for 100+ years with 50+ games a year. Google "largest bowl game score margin in history" for me. By the way that was the last game Clemson played. Not a game 2 seasons ago like you tried with carolina..

The Whitney had nothing to do with

The rock hill booster fabrication. Like I said, I don't wanna say too much about it if it's not true. Just a heads up. I won't put you through the ringer before I know it's true like you did me with the ridiculous rock hill stuff. Don't wanna look silly if it's proven not true like the rock hill bagman was.

So you're bringing up a game from 2 seasons ago to try to defend clemson's terrible defense last season? I don't get it. You can call our defense that year bad all you want. Still doesn't help you deny the fact that clemson's defense was terrible last year. Clemson's D could be even worse unless Powell is a miracle worker..

I was speaking of...

The worse beat down in the history of the SEC championship game. If Chizik had been an asshole he could have easily scored 75 points. Did not look too good in your next game either, but your defense was pretty good last year.

I still do not understand what you are talking about, I mean what you wrote does not make sense. So how would I get mad if I don't understand? Are you saying Clemson coaches and defense are providing curbside service at a rester aunt somewhere, lol? Go back and read what you wrote bro and explain it, because I don't understand it.

Here you go then:
Carolina coaches offense service a brown tomato factory. It's gonna be worse than the Whitney bro, just giving you heads up.

I was just giving you the heads up

Don't get mad bro lol.

As far as the Auburn game where we gave up 16 points, I don't think that was a very good point prover. Offense couldn't get going in that game. Arky would have worked better for you there. Not sure why you even bring Carolina's defense up. It helps you none. Not very smart to bring up the 3rd ranked defense in the NATION in an argument when you have the 71st ranked defense. It's like bring a plastic fork to a gun fight lol.

And by the way, I wasn't judging Clemson's D by one game. See NC St, Maryland, GT, South Carolina, and the list goes on. Clemson's defense was out of shape and just plain bad last season. No denying that bro. If he can get them to average he will earn his pay next season.

We will see how Brent Powell or whatever your DC's name is does this season lol.

No idea what...

That even means? But it's well known Brad Scott uses his personal credit card to buy lavish hotels for the parents of recruits. Also Clemson coaches pay recruits in mcdonalds with large paper bags. Hard to believe we don't get caught, every Gamecock fan knows about it, lol. One school has payed thousands in extra benefits and lowered academic standards for recruits, but it's not Clemson.

I think I will reserve judgement on Lorenzo lamas or whatever his name is until he coaches his first ever game as a defensive coordinator in the SEC. Also you don't judge a defense by one game or else yours would be terrible based on the Auburn performance, just does not work like that.

Clemson coaches club and Defender Services

Just a "Rock Hill booster" type of rumor about Clemson right now. Just wanted to give you the heads up like you did with me about the rock hill stuff. I don't know much about it but it sounds much worse than the rock hill rumor.

Not sure I said any of that lol

Maybe I did and forgot. I'll hold judgment on Venebles until I see his defense at Clemson on the field. I will say that it will take a miracle for them to be much more than average next season. If you wonder why I say that go back and watch the orange bowl again. You can't pin all 70 points on Steele. Well you can and probably will but you'll be kidding yourself. Venebles will be well worth the money if Clemson's defense is above average next season. That's not a knock by the way. If you go from really bad to average it is a vast improvement.

There is no doubt that Johnson is a great dc. However, if there was a knock on him it would be getting conservative and playing soft zone against pass happy offenses. Need proof go back and watch every matchup against arky. One thing that Lorenzo ward has said will change is being much more aggressive and playing more man to man. It may or may not work but with the speed and talent of our defense i think we can pull it off. Doesn't hurt to have Taylor and Clowney wreaking havoc in the backfield every other play. I guess we'll find out.

But yea I'll hold judgement on venebles until he shows something either way on the field.

Thoughts about Venables...

Someone made the comment, I can't remember who, that defensive coordinators figured out Chad Morris and all you have to do is line up in a zone defense and stand in the lanes making the offense uneffective. If you believe that he runs a Big 12 type offense this of course could not be further from the truth. As you know I like Ellis Johnson allot, I like him allot more now that he is not at Scar and for good reason. I wish he would have came to Clemson, I would not even mind if had become the head coach. He seems like one of the old guys in football. Having said that and watching him at Scar, I don't think he would have lasted very long as a defensive coordinator at Oklahoma. You cannot just line up in a zone defense, stand in passing lanes and stop Oklahoma St.

I said all that to say if you think Venables is not going to be able to stop ACC, including the option at Ga Tech or when necessary more traditional SEC type offenses after having to contend with Big 12 offense week in and week out? I don't know what to tell you.

Just because he...

Was declared academically ineligible does not mean he failed out. It's just as likely he cut class. I have no idea really, what kind of student he was in high school grade wise or college. The only thing I can say for sure is neither do you. Lol (I also don't care)

Michigan is actually in trouble finically and the payout is going to be huge. This would go a long ways towards bailing them out.

Of course I have his transcripts

But unfortunately it's illegal for me to post them online. I guess you'll just have to take my word for it lol.

Not sure what to think about Michigan. Wonder why they would want to get away from their roots? Lot of traditional rivalrys up there

I also heard...

that Michigan is seriously considering joining the Big 12.

About Bellamy's academic standings...

in highschool, or do you guys have his highschool transcripts?

What exactly are you saying I got from

Billy bob on the message boards?

You would be retarded...

also to believe Clemson is actually paying players. We don't get away with that bro, we are not Miami, Bama, Florida etc.... To my knowlege Clemson has not even got a sniff from the NCAA, of course that is because the NCAA staff is loaded down with Clemson fans, lol. Hard to make this stuff up.

 The point was that Billy Bob on the message board cannot be trusted. Clowney was fine as we know to get admitted to Scar or Clemson. That is why we offered and would have accepted him I would assume. Taking Billy Bob seriously is what we are talking about here. If everything on the message boards was to be taken seriously we both would have gotten the death penalty right now.

It's well known that Clowney's loophole was

Admitting that he had a learning disability. By the way Clemson offered him too and Dabo told him he loved him on his visit lol.

Carolina or any other sec school does not claim to be academic power houses. Clemson and the other acc schools do. That's why it shocking that this kid got into Clemson and clowney into Carolina not so much. Again, dabo made a strong push for clowney.

By the way, I won't say who it is ( they are family and they read this site) brought up a interesting theory. Wonder what will happen if Bellamy starts talking about where all that money came from. He's certainly dumb enough to do it. Costs a lot of money to get out of trouble with the NCAA. Trust me I know. Suddenly that big 12 money is looking like a must lol.

He was still a fumble machine...

during the off season anyway. He was a beast from the waist down, I doubt he ever will be trustworthy with the football.

The only argument is that we don't need to start talking academic standards and comparing them between the ACC and SEC. Also, Billy Bob on the message board said Clowney was in Special Ed. I say where he was borderline retarded in fact. I am sure this is not true. But not only did he get in to Scar but he is probably on the Dean's list, lol. So Belamy did not cut it in the classroom and he is gone from Clemson. Its been pretty well documented that Clemson is very strict on who they admit academically. I just don't think there is any substance to whatever it is you are trying to say.

Unfortunately I agree, he was not going to grow up on or off the field. But you take chances on kids like that every time. Sometimes you get Dwayne Allen and sometimes you get Bellamy. No harm, no foul.

I got a feeling if you read my Mike Bellamy post below, it will spark an argument lol

The post is right below your last post. You must have missed it..

That is great about the A! Feels good don't it. I'm too busy with my garden really for any other hobbies right now. The plane thing is cool though. May be one day I will get into that.

I can't really disagree with you about...

the ACC. I am trying to argue a little to try and spark some sort of interest in football again FYI...

Maybe this will help? As long as I am not dogging on Scar and we have healthy arguments I don't see the harm. I think we both make good points in fact. Even though you are wrong, you make good points, lol.

Got an A in my first class!! I actually hated when it ended. I really like going to school, I cannot wait to get started again. Life is going pretty good right now, knock on wood. I figure you would rather argue a little about football instead of talk about the programming language of Python?  Building an airplane out of foam? I trying really hard to become a complete nerd. I am doing pretty good so far.

But my interest in fishing has gotten back up, so there is that.

Mike Bellamy academically ineligible this season

Going to JUCO this fall. Not surprising. You know how I've felt about him since even before he committed to Clemson. Tried to tell you and Brent. Kid is a dumbass thug. Addition by subtraction for Clemson IMO. Question is how did he qualify to get into Clemson inthe first place. Everyone knew he was dumb as a brick in hs. Even rumored that he was in special classes. Nothing wrong with that if you're trying to get into wvu or Louisville or any school in the SEC (to hear ACC fans call it) but Clemson? I thought they were the cream of the crop in academics? Unlike some lowly Carolina lol.

And I will say over and over again that

VT is the best team in the acc. Once again we agree to disagree.

What has Miami done for me lately? They are a dying program plain and simple.

We disagree on these things and it's ok. We're not going to convince each other otherwise.

One thing we're starting to agree on is the big12 deal. I'm starting to buy in to the hype. The acc sucks and they only care about basketball. All the teams that care anything about football need to jump ship.

I will say over and over...

they are not the best team in the ACC, because they are not. Clemson is right now and I would say FSU at least should be the second. In fact if you were making a prediction for this year you would probably pick FSU then Clemson and then everyone else. For comparison FSU has won the conference something like 12 times since joining and have a National Championship while in the ACC.

So then Golden is not a good coach in your opinion and Miami is not really getting good recruits? I think they at least play for a National Championship in the next 10 years or have an undefeated season (you could have an undefeated season and not be in the championship game. What am I basing it off of? They do it about every 10 years or so.

I wasn't taking away from what Clemson did last year

Clemson did beat VT twice last year and won the ACC. Clemson was the best team in the ACC last year. I'm not taking that from them. That does not trump what VT has done since joining the ACC however. They have pretty much dominated the ACC. Saying they are not the best team in the ACC should make you lol. They have won the the ACC 4 out of 8 times. That is Bama style domination right there.

As for Miami, I'm not sure why we're still talking about them. They're not worth the wasted breath. In 10 years where do I see Miami? Depends on which conference you are talking about them playing in. If they remain in the ACC I could see them sneaking around and gettin 9 wins a couple of years out of 10. If they were in the big 12? They would be lucky to have one season where they win 8 games. They would be a 6-6 type big 12 school. That's just how I see it..

Let me lol at Va Tech being...

the best in the ACC, we beat them twice last year handily. Also, Foster is certainly a big part of why, that is not in question. What is in question is his ability to be a head coach. How many interviews has he had and come away short? Also, its pretty well know after his interview at Clemson he said "If you don't hire me I will continue to beat you on the field". That didn't happen either.

We will see then about Miami, Golden was able to win at Temple. So give me the scenerio of what you think will happen to Miami in the next 10 years?

You could be right about VT

But facts are facts and the fact is that they are easily the best team in the Coastal division and very arguably the best team in the acc. It would be like USC leaving the PAC 10 or osu leaving the big 10. They are miles ahead of Miami. It's not even close. You give too much credit to Beamer. The reason VT has been good post mike Vick is because of there defense. Bud foster gets the credit there. Guess what we else, foster is still a young man. I know people say that he hasn't got a big head coach job because of all these crazy rumors but the fact is he knows the VT job is his after Beamer is gone. And after Beamer is gone you can bet Beamer won't be all the way gone until he dies. He will be a big part of that program even after foster takes over (see brad Scott at Clemson). VT isn't going anywhere after Beamer retires which will be a long time in itself.

None of that defeats the fact that Miami is done as a program. I really believe that. Wouldn't be surprised if they have to drop down to div 2 lol

The cool thing is we...

can always see who it right on the field. So we will just have to wait and see about Miami, if they make another come back. I think they will, sooner rather than later in fact. They played for the National Championship in 2002 and lost, but it was the best championship game I have ever seen.

I can agree completely about Ga Tech, the goal is of course to have a huge footprint in the SEC's back yard. Ga Tech has allot of tradition and there is no reason they could not recruit better and be successfull. I feel like they would be one of the toughest teams to get to leave the ACC. But I could be wrong, I also agree Va Tech may not leave. Unlike you I am not big on Va Tech. I think once Beamer is gone, Va Tech is done. Its already starting to happen unfortunately. A team like that has no National Championships or tradition, a true johnny come lately and from a bussiness point of view they are a risk.

BTW

I think getting GT to come would make more sense. Definitely more sense than Miami. Better program with much more to offer..

No, I know you wasn't saying that they definitely would leave for the Big 12

And I'm not saying VT and Miami definitely wouldn't. Just stating the reasons why I think they wouldn't.

We'll just have to agree to disagree on Miami..

I definitely was not saying those teams would...

be moving. Just that its somewhat logical they might. But as far as Miami not being worth it as a program? The first paragraph tells you what you need to know about Miami:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami_Hurricanes_football

We like to only think about the 80's but according to ESPN they fielded one of the best teams in college football in 2001:

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/list/colfootball/teams/best.html

10 years of success or lack of success does not make or break a program. Even with all the controversy last year they got a great class. They are off to a good start this year. I would not be surprised at all if they once again rise from the ashes and field another one of the greatest teams ever. I don't think I have ever even seen anything official that they are being investigated. Shapiro or whatever even admitted Randy Shannon never allowed him to come around. That will go along ways towards the NCAA not making this a priority.

I don't know about VT and Miami

I don't think anybody wants Miami. Out of all the schools that got busted miami had the worst offense. A federal offense. Bunch of thugs and everybody knows it. They are a small private school that isn't high in academic standards. They don't make any money. They don't have a big following now that all of their bandwagon fans have jumped ship. And let's face it bro, Miami sucks. They can't beat their way out of a wet paper sack. There is a difference between a slump and what Miami is going through. They strike fear in no one anymore unlike a team like Texas that is in a slump right now. Miami brings nothing to the table for any conference.

As for VT, I think they are just content in the ACC. They can win the conference nearly every year and play in a BCS bowl game. Its like the same reasons that Deptula says Clemson should stay in the ACC. VT also made it clear when the SEC was after them that they strived for many years to get to the ACC and now that they are there they aren't going anywhere.

This is just my opinion on that though. I think the addition of FSU and Clemson to the big 12 is enough to boost them to the 2nd best conference anyway.

She does not normally read the board...

But I show her your tomatoes when you post. I will make sure she reads your message.

Yeah, someone also pointed out that Terry Don Phillips came from the Big 12. It won't really be that much more for travel, it's only half the games and not that much further by plane than other places we all have to go. But a conference with Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, TCU, west Virginia, FSU, Clemson, Texas tech, Kansas St, then throw in maybe Va Tech, possibly Miami? That's gonna be pretty bad ass. Second in football without question and some years maybe even second to none. We would get paid for sure. When a BOT member goes public it's pretty serious. This guy said no way during the SEC debate. Jumbo has opened the door as well. I think Clemson and FSU will go together if at all.

Guess we will see.

I saw Hiro's post right before you posted last

You didn't tell me that she read the site lol. We will really have to clean up our act with what we post when football season draws near lol. That's definitely a good thing.

Hiro, you should have as many tomatoes as you want when you get here. I have over 30 plants and they all are growing much better than I thought they would. The ones that I lost I was able to replace with some back-ups I had. I tried Vance's trick with the ash from the grill also and I really think that gave them a little boost. Anyway, I haven't had the chance to congratulate you on getting married. We are all very happy to have you in our family. The only bad part about our family is having to put up with Vance HA HA! Just kidding of course.

Hey bro, back to the Big 12 deal. It looks like it's a situation of not if but when. FSU definitely can't back out now because they will be hated by everyone in the ACC now. Not really even talking about the fans but with the higher ups behind the scenes. Looks like it's on now..

I know you don't care to rewatch it but Youtube has a copy of the whole Carolina/Clemson game from last season that I'm watching now. It's really got me in a football mood tonight.

Hiro left you a comment...

She has been concerned about your tomatoes and I showed her the picture. We have one that has come up in the old dirt with no water by itself. It's starting to get big, I have been putting ashes from the grill in the dirt. Same thing happened in Afghanistan, they love ashes. I didn't really see it as a serious possibility, just something to talk about. But I got to admit, the evidence is starting to stack up that it may be at least being discussed. Also something we did not discuss, but Dabo somewhat unexpectedly has been pulling allot of coaches from the Big 12 area and even Venables directly from a Big 12 school. I did not think about it until now really.

My first tomato!

I don't know when

but I think it's going to happen..

Looks like FSU...

Is going a little more public: http://floridastate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1364755

Man you're right bro

Never thought about it like that

Oklahoma is not on the same level as Bama by any means...

But you are comparing Scar reaching Bama's level to Clemson playing on Oklahoma's level? Clemson and Oklahoma recruit pretty close to the same level now, but if we combine our class with Oklahoma's it still may not equal Bama's. There are schools out there with much more money and tradition than either one of us that still have not replaced a legendary coach. Notre Dame for example, it is not easy even for a school that has everything. It even took none other than Bama a couple of try's to get Saban. I know because I lived it for over 20 years now. I finally gave up, so maybe that is not a good question to get a positive response from me. What other school replaced a legendary coac on the first try?

And as far as Clemson getting to the same level as OU

I would like to think Carolina could get to the same level as Bama and LSU one day too lol

I guess I should just give up on football then..

If there is no chance that Carolina can hire someone that can build off of what Spurrier has started I may as well give up. Do you think Hyman can't hire someone to build off of what is going on right now at Carolina? Can we not find our Chad Morris? Or should I really stop wishing?

I'm still on the fence about the big 12 deal

Walt makes good points...

My point is that I want to be able to compete with those teams tho. I agree we would not right now. I do think we could get close to Oklahoma's level one day.

Again...

Gamecock fans believe it's due to the SEC, upgrades, etc... I think it's Spurrier and I don't agree he will hire someone that's going to do what he has done. It's just not possible, there is not another Spurrier. Who else in your opinion could win a conference championship at Dook in football? I do agree he will be around for allot longer tho. I never said adding Syracuse and Pitt was a football move, that's adding words in my mouth of course. What I said was that it was not as bad as everyone was saying. Both teams have potential to be good in football. In fact I hated the Big 12, I am really just tired of being in a conference ran by NC. Unlike many others, I think Texas running a conference is not bad. Texas is probably the only school that could rival Bama. The Big 12 is the only conference that has the potential to derail what ESPN has done to make college football a joke. The national championship was a joke last year. The NCAA is a joke, Auburn can do what they did, but Ohio St gets slammed for free tattoos.

I can't disagree with that

It's no secret the Spurrier is a large reason for our success. He and Hyman have really done a great job at SC. Hyman deserves just as much praise imo. Spurrier could not be successful with a administration that holds him back. Hyman has answered to every one of Spurrier's needs as well as every other coach in the athletic dept. I mean look at the baseball team, wow. They get a state of the art stadium that will rival any in the nation and they win back to back national championships. The basketball team hasn't been as successful but Hyman did make the best decision possible with this new hire in Frank Martin. Hyman has done an excellent job and that's why I trust him with the hire after Spurrier is gone. We'll get somebody good that Spurrier has already laid a great foundation for. I don't think Spurrier is leaving for at least 3-4 more years anyway.

Back to the Plyler deal. You missed the key word, "revenue". Plyler said South Carolina is lapping Clemson in "revenue". Even if South Carolina was miles ahead of Clemson as a whole in athletics, Plyler would never admit to that. That's why he through the word revenue in there. I don't think Carolina is miles ahead of Clemson as a whole in athletics. There is no way to argue that we haven't been ahead recently though.

Now for another radio personality's opinion on Clemson to the big 12.Walt Deptula has absolutely ripped everyone that has called his show that supports Clemson to the big 12. He laughs at them and embarrasses them. If you really are strong in belief that Clemson needs to go to the big 12, you don't need to listen to his show. It will only piss you off. His whole view surrounds the fact that Clemson can win in the ACC. They could possibly beat any team in the ACC on any given day. He asks why anyone would want to go away from that? He doesn't think Clemson is ready to play teams like Ok and Texas (even though they're down right now) on a seasonal basis. He says they are just not at that level yet. He also says that with the NCAA going to the 4 team playoff national championship they're best shot to be one of those 4 teams will be in the ACC. He says it will be nearly impossible for Clemson with a big 12 schedule. Like I said, these are not my views they are Walt's.

I'm really on the fence about it myself. I can see what you mean about playing teams like Texas, Ok, ect. rather than playing Syracuse and Pitt. It would also be more money. But you have to think that the travel expenses would cut into that a lot not just for football but for every other sport.

On the other hand, you and I both have argued for years about the ACC being a dying conference. You claimed to like the direction the ACC was headed in. You claimed that adding Syracuse and Pitt was a football move by Swoffard, not a basketball move. I must admit that I kinda find it hard to believe that the conference that you spent so much time defending (and sometimes screaming and yelling about lol) you are willing to just jump ship. What changed for you?

I don't really have an opinion about it. I see both sides of the story. I would like to see Clemson keep playing UNC, NC ST, GT, and schools like that because it gives me a reason to keep up with them. It also may be a good thing to have a reason to keep up with the big 12 schools. I'll ride the fence for now..

Oh yeah...

In terms of the reason Scar is ahead of Clemson for the series right now being because they are so well off financially. I don't agree with Plyler, I just don't buy that right now money is the reason why righ now. Money is not everything, Spurrier in my opinion is the reason why. Not because he has been an offensive mastermind as expected, but because he put a great staff together. A great strength and conditioning coach, Ellis Johnson etc... Clemson has spent just as much money as Scar on staff, maybe more now? Money is not everything.

When Spurrier is gone? He is going to be hard to replace, there are no more Steve Spurriers laying around. Scar did not get him because of money or facilities. He recently made the statement "If Saban wants to show he is a great coach he needs to win somewhere other than Bama". I could not agree more, thats why you are ahead, because of Spurrier and his desire to show he can win anywhere.

Yeah finished with my first class...

Just real busy this week, I think the test went fine.  Pretty sure I got an A in the class but I will have to see. I want to grow some weird tomatoes now also, that was a good idea.

I told you I thought the 3rd season of Prison Break was real good too. Not sure what people were wanting or expecting? 4th season, not so much at least for me. I did not even finish it. I am just catching up on Game of Thrones, The Borgias and of course River Monsters, lol. I went fishing and did not catch a think last weekend but I am probably going to try and start going again. All it takes is one time to get me hooked again.

I actually heard Plyler on the radio the last time I was home promoting Clemson to the Big 12, so this is nothing new? He is very open in his disatisfation with Swofford and the ACC on his website. I guess I am just kind of surprise you have just heard him promote it. Does not mean Clemson will move, but if you hear Plyler promote something it probably means it is being seriously considered. I think its the best move at this point, I am just bored with the ACC. Tobacco road team rivalries? I would not give 2 cents for those. Clemson vs NC State, DOOK, Wake Forest and North Carolina or Clemson vs Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas, TCU, Texas Tech West Virginia ect...? No brainer really bro IMO. I think it would be good and quickly make the Big 12 the second best football conference all the sudden. Hopefully they would add Miami and Virginia Tech as well. I know everyone says but Texas runs the conference, which is true. But one team runs every conference and Texas is a football school just like Alabama. If you believe Alabama runs the SEC how have they done running it?

So you're finished with class for the time being right?

I think mama said that you were taking your final exam the other day. How did that go?

I'm staying pretty busy with the garden. The plants are getting pretty big now and requiring more time from be. It's ok though because I enjoy it. It's also better than sitting up in the house. I'm on the last season of prison break. I was surprised that so many people were down on the 3rd season. I like it and am still very interested in the show going into the 4th season. There is also a movie spin off of the show called prison break: the final break. So i'll watch it when I'm done with the show.

I was listening to micky plyler this morning and he had some pretty interesting views on the direction of the ACC. He says the ACC either needs to get teams from the big 12 such as ok, ok st, texas, and wvu or Clemson needs to leave with FSU and go to the big 12. He said the ACC has the 2nd smallest TV revenue surpassing only the big east. He was kind of leaning towards clemson staying in the ACC and stealing the teams from the big 12 until a caller called in and told him that would never happen. The caller explained that the teams in the big 12 are stuck there for 13 years because of the new tv contract that was signed when wvu joined the conference. If they were to leave the big 12 between now and 2025, the big 12 will get all of their TV revenue regardless of the conference that they were in due to the contract that was signed. This was the only way that the big 12 saw fit to stabilise the conference. Micky didn't realise this and it pretty much tipped him over the edge to where he thinks Clemson has to join the big 12 now. He says the ACC is dying and that South Carolina is lapping Clemson as far a revenue goes. His words not mine. You know yourself that it is very uncommon for plyler to make a comment like that. Anyway, it was a interesting show even though I hate the guy lol. I don't know what is going to happen with the big 12 deal but as we both know, plyler usually knows stuff. Would you want them to move? I guess I would kind of be on the fence about it. It would bring in more money but it would also be harder to win in the big 12. You also lose some of your natural rivals like the tobacco road schools, which are games I enjoy watching. Thoughts?

Yeah it finally happened...

I have just been busy with finals at school. Thanks for the congrats.

Congrats Bro!

Mama told me the news last night. We're all happy for y'all.

Yea bro I was almost floored

I agree that most all of them smoke pot but there area select few that don't. I thought Sammy was one of them. I would have been almost as surprised if Latti would have got the same charge. I'm not saying that Sammy is a bad kid but damn I thought he was one of the very few that was smarter than that. I mean that in all honesty. Dabo built him up to that standard and maybe Dabo was as shocked about it as everyone else. Just like Spurrier building up a player like Latti and Latti getting caught. Can you honestly say it didn't catch you off guard?

Speaking of Latti, he tweeted about the Sammy situation. He said something to the extent of praying for Sammy and his family and that he has the utmost respect for him. That kid has more class in his pinky finger than half of either of our fan bases. Myself included..

Either way it isn't a big deal at all other than being a shocker. He'll miss a couple of games which is a stronger punishment than Spurrier would give a player of his caliber. Nothing more than joke material for me if the Gamecocks have a bad season..

Hard to believe? Lol

College kids smoke pot bro. Just like any other star on a team he will be playing next year, so there's that. I think it is going to be July when we come probably bro. I thought you watched Jericho, took me a while to watch it but I finally did and it was a good show. They kinda ruined it towards the end because renewal was so unstable, but definitely worth a watch. Hard to really believe not many people watched it.

You know I couldn't resist this, this is the only jab I promise lol

Sammy Watkins Mug Shot

More info on Sammy

http://www.wyff4.com/news/local-news/oconee-pickens-news/Police-Clemson-football-star-arrested/-/9654906/12564168/-/t27vsfz/-/index.html

Wow, just wow

This is hard to believe..

http://www2.wspa.com/news/2012/may/04/clemson-star-sammy-watkins-arrested-university-pol-ar-3731114/

Hey bro

Daddy is wondering if you are still going to be able to come home in June?

You know I never watched Jerico

I wanted to but for some reason I never did. It looked like a pretty good show.

Jenn and I just got back from Savannah. Went there for the weekend for our anniversary. We had a good time. It was the first time we had been and we enjoyed it. There is a lot of history there and I love that kind of stuff. I want to make it an annual trip. Not a long drive at all.

The tomatoes are coming along good. A couple of the plants have some blooms on them. The biggest plant is over 2' tall. I need to water them more often probably and they would take off. I'm going to put the cages around them this weekend probably. I'm ready to see what the fruit will look like. I'll try to think to take you some pics before I cage them.

I'm glad you're enjoying school. I thought you would like the programming side. Definitely like it more than me. It's just not my thing. I like what I'm doing now. I think you will like that side too. Maybe not as much as the programming though.

This would be great...

http://tv.ign.com/articles/122/1224090p1.html

First class is almost done...

and honestly I hate that it is over. I don't know that I can leave the programming alone now. I am probably going to have to do a double major between CMIS and computer networking. This teacher was pretty hard, I just took my second midterm and I had to write 4 programs, it took 3 hours and I finished before anyone else. Other teachers have said you don't normally have to actually write programs in this class. Having said that, I liked the class allot and I learned more than I ever thought I would. Can't wait for the next one, but I guess it will be computer networking and security. I should switch it up every other class until I am done.

I will probably continue to play around with Qbasic for fun, way outdated but I know it pretty good. Java and Python seem to be important ones. Especially Java, it runs on its own platform which means it can run on a MAC or PC. Thats also why it slows down your computer. Its just so strict, it has to be completely right or its not going to work.

How are the tomatoes? I grill almost every day here now. Just started putting some mussels on the grill and they taste pretty good. I want to try some oysters next if I can find them for a decent price.

No surprise really...

You would assume they had a good idea of what to offer from the NCAA. Kinda surprised Gilmore went before Ingram or Jeffrey, I guess he did well in the NFL camp. Game of thrones is getting good, I can't wait to see what happens so I am probably going to buy the books. Arkansas, how stupid is all I can say. They must want to tear down what petrino left, I don't get it.

Carolina Sanctions Handed Down

Luckily it wasn't too bad. The NCAA excepted Carolina's self imposed sanctions. We came out pretty good in the deal considering how bad it could have been. Glad that's over. Wheeeew lol..

You may not be the least bit...

interested in this (maybe before your time):

http://www.tntdrama.com/series/dallas/

But I think it is pretty cool, I may give it a shot.

Posting from my new iPhone

Just a test lol

I guess you could say...

Game of Thrones has started slow. But you can tell that they just have so much that is important to get out of the way before it really gets going. I just watched the last episode and you can tell its really about to get rolling now. I think the show is making sure it does not skip or minimize significant parts of the books. They also know they have as much time as they want to do it because this show gets renewed as soon as the first season airs, just like Spartacus.

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 13

I'm still watching Prison Break on and off. I would be watching it a lot more but I broke down and bought the new Tiger Woods and I'm addicted just like every year when I buy it lol. I am on the 2nd season of Prison Break though. It's a good show.

I'm letting Game of Thrones build up on my DVR so I can watch a bunch of the episodes at once. I've heard mixed reviews on it. Some say it's starting off great and some say it's really slow. It started slow last season though and ended up being epic. Won't know till I watch it I guess.

I finally watched...

the season ending episode of Spartacus. Me and Hiro were saving it because we hate to see the season end. But we broke down and watched it. They really know how to end a season, wow. What a season and what an ending.

The Borgias are back, I am also watching Game of Thrones of course. Game of Thrones is a different kind of show from Spartacus. But its good. Still got a couple of episodes of Eastbound left, we are pretty much holding on to them right now.

Still spending allot of time with college and writing programs. I am actually liking it allot.

Gary Patterson is a no brainer...

IMO. To win at Arkansas you have to recruit and compete with the lesser talent from Texas. Gary Patterson already does that, recruits quite well at TCU already. He might even be able to steal one or two from the Longhorns.

Just my opinion on those....

Kirby Smart is a terrible choice. Nick Saban runs that defence and here is a guy who is used to getting the best talent out there. In fact even the highly rated players who do not perform are ran off to bring in more. We know Saban is a great coach with the best of the best talent. I am not convinced that even Saban would do well at Arkansas much less Kirby Smart. Its a risk to even hire Smart as a defensive coordinator IMO.

Guz Malzhan, I don't really know what happened. But something happened when he left Auburn, some even say he was not calling the plays at the end. But who knows, red flags IMO. Those red flags are likely to become public immediately if he gets hired as a head coach, especially considering Arkansas in the same division as Auburn. Unless it simply that he was not a good offensive coordinator Chizik would finally spill the beans.

Skip Holtz? Good choice, nothing bad to say about him really. But unless you are trying to save money, why in the world would you pick him over Gary Patterson?

I've heard a few names

Kirby Smart, Bama DC, Gus Malzahn, Skip Holtz, just to name a few. I think anyone of these would be reasonable.

I would like...

To see Bowden back also. In this interview (just this week) he says he has no interest in coaching:

http://www.yahoosportsradio.com/shows/tim-brando/the-bowden-family-legacy-in-college-football-21430/

I know that don't mean he would not. Franklin or whatever his name is at Vanderbilt has been mentioned for the Arkansas job. I do think the Vanderbuilt job would be a good one for Bowden if so. Expectations are much lower and I think he actually would up recruiting there and keep them at a 7 or 8 win team (mostly 7) which is as good there and what they expect. Arkansas is going to need to go after a Gary Patterson type and to get him for example they will need every penny of that SEC money. What he is going to ask for would make him maybe the highest paid college coach out there or he is not moving.

I see what you mean

I guess it's tough to win at any school in the SEC and especially the SEC west as of late. I don't think it makes the Arkansas job less attractive though. It is still a SEC school with SEC pay.

Also...

Since Petrino has been coach there, Arkansas has only signing 4 or 5 players per year from the state of Arkansas.

Before Arkansas...

Petrino had a good run at Louisville, a Big East team. Then a failure in the NFL, no big deal but a great coach? But even if you could rightly see he was a great coach, everyone would agree at the time he could not be trusted to be loyal to a school. In other words as soon as a better job came open. But really it was timing, the Arkansas job came open. Then they got real serious about football and gave him allot of money. Everything just lined up perfectly and before the big contract no one thought he would stay at Arkansas.

We see how far Louisville dropped when he left. He just won 10 games and dominated everyone except LSU and Alabama. I am not sure how a job could be tougher when you play Alabama and LSU every year. His stock really went up while he was the coach at Arkansas, not before IMO. But in the long run, the main reason he would not have been considered a great coach at the time to hire is the same reason he got fired. He was just not trustworthy, just came out different than we expected and more embarrassing. But pure entertainment for me.

Good points

Petrino is a very good coach and I would put him in the top 5 best coaches in the country for sure. Which leads me to this, since we both agree that Petrino is a great coach why then did he take the Arky job himself? Surely he could have found a better one if Arky is difficult to win there. I just don't think it's that tough to win at Arky. Hell even Houston Nutt had some success there. I think the state of Arkansas has very underrated talent. I'll just say I'm glad to get them off of our permanent schedule lol.

It might not be the right job for Tommy Bowden, don't get me wrong. He may not be interested and Arky may not be interested in him. I don't think it is because of difficulty to win at Arky though. I kind of wish Tommy would end up there or somewhere in the south east. I'd like to see him get back into coaching again.

But going back to what you said...

I think Petrino is one of the best college coaches out there, I am talking number 1 or 2 in the country. I don't think you can expect to get the same results with another coach there. Obviously there was probably even more to that story. I don't think Bowden gets serious consideration, nor do I think he should take that job. But I didn't think Petrino would get fired either.

Wow, I was about to comment...

looked on the front page of Arkansas Rivals and bam, he is fired. lol

Glad you had a good birthday

Yea I don't think that they are going to fire Petrino either. You're also right about Tommy not even wanting the job. He turned it down in 2008 for a reason. I don't know so much about Arky being a tough place to win though. It may not look like they recruit well but they always end up with extraordinary talent. More times than not it shows on the field. At least in the last few years it has.

Tommy may not have wanted to live in Arkansas, who the hell does? Like you said, I don't think Petrino will be fired anyway.

Thanks bro...

I had a pretty good one.

First off, I have my doubts Arkansas was really going to hire Bowden. Also I don't think Petrino is going anywhere. Would Bowden even be interested is another question. He has a good, easy job now and Arkansas would be a tough place to win. Much tougher than Clemson. I don't know why he would take that job.

Happy birthday bro

Just wanted to tell you happy birthday. Also, another interesting thought..

Arkansas went after Tommy Bowden in 2008. Now with all the turmoil with Petrino could Tommy to Arky be a possibility again?

LOL

I don't blame you bro..

I was thinking if I were you I would plant every one of them. I bet they will do good next to the fence or something. I never thought about growing odd tomatoes like that. I am going to try it for sure, that was a great idea.

Prison Break was good, the third season was not that bad. But I could not even finish the 4th season. Still have not watch the end of Spartacus or Eastbound. I have watched both episodes of game of thrones, I am behind on Touch as well. School has got my full attention, but that's actually good. I am enjoying it.

Oh and Bobby Petrino, lol.

Finally got all my tomato plants in the ground

All 37 of them lol. Should have a bunch of brown tomatoes lol.

I finally started watching a show. Prison break, I think you had told me about it before. It's really good so far. A lot of people say that the 1st season is really good, 2nd season is ok, and the 3rd is the worst of any show out there. I guess I'll be the judge. Also Game of Thrones has started back up. Got the first episode recorded, haven't watched it yet. I might even wait till prison break is done before I do.

They are looking real good...

I am pretty sure I have ordered from Seedrack before and they had real good seeds. I have just been busy, school, a Ball this weekend, work.. Just never seems to end. Watched spartacus but that's about it. Got a midterm tomorrow after exactly two classes, lol. Glad it's open book. Keep me posted on the tomatoes, can't wait to see them when they are grown.